With more and more or the 7th edition rules becoming tied down, I think now is a good time to start making a thread about the changes. First off, the Good: From 3++, move through cover allows you to ignore the -2' from charge distance for charging through cover. Genestealers may make it to combat against units in cover now. Zoanthropes are cheap psychic defense and for generating warp charges, particularly in un bound lists. The Bad: Smash is now a single attack with armorbane.

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So for most vehicles you can hope to get lucky and pop it in a single attack, or glance it to death. I personally didn't find this too big of a deal, since most of my vehicle kills were from Devourers and Impaler cannons. FMC's cannot charge the turn they switch modes, so no swoop-swoop-glide/charge. The Meh: Snap shots are still hit on an unmodified 6. My new game plan for 1850 list 2x Flying Dakka Rants Venomthrope Venomthrope 3xzoanthrope 3 warriors death spitters 3 warriors death spitters Harpy, heavy venom cannon Harpy, heavy venom cannon 2xdakka fex, adrenal glands 2xdakka fex, adrenal glands The plan: 1.

Spam psykers for max warp charge 2. Carifexes become the nids best offensive against vehicles 3. Venomthropes hide with warriors on objectives 4. Harpies drop their payload on troops as they fly by, shoot at heavier vehicles 5. Tyrants shoot up light vehicles.

Right but then I have to take 2x more troops. It could be an interesting trade off, thanks for pointing that out. I know for me personally, zoanthropes suddenly became THE elite unit to take for the warp charges and for the AP 1 lances since the vehicle damage chart got tougher to crack. Correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't it only be 1x extra troops? You only need 1 troop in the allied detachment unless it was changed and I missed that.

Also AP1 lances didn't get buffed they got nerfed, just not as badly as the non-ap1/ap2 weapons. It is harder to roll a 7+ even for AP1/2 weapons than it was to roll a 6+ it's just that they are the only weapons that can do that normally now. Finally, while I have no proof at this time, my personal feeling is that psychic powers haven't been buffed as much as people seem to be thinking. Sure if you roll a 6 on your D6 all the time it got much better but if you only roll 1 then you're going to have a hard time getting all your powers off and will have to make decisions. In my personal opinion a leadership check is more reliable for psykers with LD10 which is the majority of them. Correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't it only be 1x extra troops?

You only need 1 troop in the allied detachment unless it was changed and I missed that. Also AP1 lances didn't get buffed they got nerfed, just not as badly as the non-ap1/ap2 weapons. It is harder to roll a 7+ even for AP1/2 weapons than it was to roll a 6+ it's just that they are the only weapons that can do that normally now. Finally, while I have no proof at this time, my personal feeling is that psychic powers haven't been buffed as much as people seem to be thinking. Sure if you roll a 6 on your D6 all the time it got much better but if you only roll 1 then you're going to have a hard time getting all your powers off and will have to make decisions. In my personal opinion a leadership check is more reliable for psykers with LD10 which is the majority of them. From my understanding (though I could be totally wrong) you have the option of taking two detachments of the same force, but you have to take an additional HQ and 2x troops.

AP 1 lances may not have gotten boosted, but every other tyranid vehicle killing weapon (heavy venom cannon, impaler cannon etc) got nerfed with the new vehicle damage chart. The one exception is brain leach devourers that only work on vehicles armor 12 or below (just to glance out). Psychic powers remain to be seen for me. I know I would rather have more warp charges than less at this point. Another not-so-big-but-important-nonetheless-change: Vector strike is only 1 hit against non-flying targets. That means The Hive Crone is completely relegated to flyer-killer duty, at which it isn't that good anyway.

And the positive is that now all FMCs are horribly hard to ground: Need to be wound, and you only make a single test at the end of the enemy shooting phase. In fact, being grounded forces you to change flight mode before the start of your own turn, which means you can charge.

Finally, you can run 6 Flying Hive Tyrants with BLDV at ~1650 pts even on Battle Forged. That's 72 BS4 TL S6 shoots coming from flyers each turn. So I guess it isn't so bad. Apparently, using a flamer against an open-topped transport means tasty, tasty murder against the unit inside in the form of D6 hits. With the fall of our non-'fexes MCs as vehicle killers, the electroshock grubs are looking as a tasty alternative. The extra damage against those thrice damned dark eldar is nice.

Also, I was thinking that a unit of Tyrant Guards with Adrenal Glands and Crushing claws look like a solid alternative now as tank busters and general meleeing: Fleet, S7 on the charge, AP2, Armourbane and, most important, WS5, and, for a touch more, poison. 2 of them are slightly more expensive than a meleefex with adrenal glands, while gaining 2 extra attacks and that important increased WS. And they may choose to use their rending claws if initiative matters, anyway, while the fex is stuck at I2. On the other side, I'm pretty sure everyone uses dakkafexes, anyway.